Frank Saunders - Drumming Legend
Frank Saunders with the early New Ross and District Pipe Band. Frank is in the back rank behind the bass drum.
With St.Laurence O'Toole PB, NYC, 1952 (below)
- Frank is top right corner.
Most bands people in the republic of Ireland will be very familiar with
the name of Frank Saunders as indeed will many in Northern Ireland for
his name has been synonymous with drumming since the 1950's.
Both a successful Drum Sergeant with Ireland's most successful band of
the 50's and 60's and a respected adjudicator North and South of the
border, Frank Saunders has also made huge contributions to a number of
bands as drumming instructor throughout the 70's and 80's and the
Saunders children and grand children have all continued in Frank's
footsteps through their involvement with the pipe band scene in Ireland.
A native of Donnybrook, a now fashionable suburb of Dublin, Frank was
born in 1933 into a Dublin very different to that which exists today.
The Dublin of the 1930's was the hub of the pipe band scene in Ireland
and boasted dozens of successful bands.
It was in 1945 that Frank was first persuaded by his brother Bill to
join the drum corps of the local Donnybrook Scouts. Frank was 10 years
of age. The Drum Sergeant in the band at that time was Eamonn Tracey
and the band also had the services of a Scottish drumming instructor,
Bob McVeigh (ex-Scots Guards). Frank fondly remembers the first pair of
drum sticks he used for practice, which were whittled from kindling in
the family home.
The Donnybrook Scouts at that time were led by Pipe Major George
Purcell and his brother Leo Purcell was the pipe sergeant. Frank joined
the band in 1945 and soon tasted success by winning the All Ireland
Junior Grade in 1947 and the All Ireland Intermediate Grade in 1948.
The Donnybrook Scouts Pipe Band travelled to one of the earliest Inter
-Celtic festivals when they made the trip to Quimper in Brittany in
1948.
Bill Saunders went to work in London in 1949 and Frank took over as
Drum Sergeant. Donnybrook Scouts progressed to play at senior level but
did not figure in the prizes as the senior piping scene was then
dominated by the St. Laurence O'Toole Pipe Band, the Fintan Lalor Pipe
Band and the James Connolly Pipe band.
Frank recalls that during the 1949/1950 period, the Donnybrook Scouts
purchased a set of kilts in Mckenzie tartan which were being sold on by
another band at the 'right price'. Up to this the Scout Band had worn
the traditional scout uniform of short pants, shirt and neckerchief.
Some of the more conservative types at Scout HQ expelled the band from
the Scout Association for a breach in uniform policy! The band changed
its name and continued in existence for some further years as the
Hibernian Pipe Band.
It was inevitable that a talent such as Frank's would progress on to
bigger and better things and in 1953, he joined the St. Laurence
O'Toole Pipe Band which at that time was under the direction of PM Joe
Byrne. A year later, PM John Duggan took control of the band.The
O'Toole's drum corps at that time was under the direction of Joe
Donovan, son of the legendary Paddy Donovan. The drum corps was
completed by Joe Andrews and Willie Crowley.
In 1954, Frank made the first of many trips to the Cowal Highland
Gathering and it was there that he first met the famous Alex Duthart of
Shotts and Dykehead. Alex as a young drummer had been hugely impressed
by Paddy Donovan's drumming technique and he made a point of greeting
his son's drum corps by shaking the hand of each drummer . This hand
shake led to a life long acquaintance.
Frank spent the next seven years in the O'Toole's drum corps. He became
Drum sergeant in 1955 and was joined by his brothers Bill and Gerry.
Willie Crowley completed the back line. The band won the All Ireland
senior title in 1958 (drumming and piping) ; in 1959 they finished 3rd.
as a band and 1st. in drumming and in 1960 they were denied the
drumming hat trick by Ballycoan who pipped them for the drumming title
by a quarter of a point. Bill Saunders had emigrated to Canada leaving
them with only three side drummers. The Ballycoan drummers at that time
were under the direction of the very talented Kit Reynolds.
After winning the senior grade in Ireland in 1958, the band went to the
Cowal Games where they were graded Grade 3 by the Scottish Pipe Band
Association. They won the Daily Record Challenge Shield for best band
in this grade and also the McBrayne Cup for best drum corp. In that
same year, all the drumming prizes went to Irish bands : Grade One 1st.
Fintan Lalor 2nd. Ballycoan ; Grade 2 29th. Old Boys ; Grade 3
O'Toole's; Grade 4 Narraghmore.
It was 1958 that Frank also hit the pinnacle of his solo career when he
won the All Ireland Senior Solo Drumming Championships to add to his
growing reputation as a drummer of great quality.
It was possibly inevitable that Frank would eventually gravitate
towards the country's most successful band at that time, the Fintan
Lalor Pipe Band under Pipe Major Tim Keogh and this he eventually did
in 1961. The Fints went on to win the All Ireland in 1962, 1963, and
1964 as well as winning the Grade 2 drumming (Hamilton Shield) in Cowal
in 1969 and again in 1971. The Fintan Lalor drum corps at this stage
consisted of Frank Saunders, Ciaran Mordaunt (current Chairman of the
IPBA and well known adjudicator), Barry Lawlor, Francis Merrigan and
Paul Merrigan (nephews of Tommy Merrigan). Barry Lawlor was later to
die tragically in a motorcycle accident.
During this period , the Fintan Lalor band were familiar figures north
and south of the border and they enjoyed numerous friendly rivalries
with bands in Northern Ireland. Both the late Tim Keogh and Frank
Saunders were to be held in great respect by their northern colleagues
and were also regular visitors as adjudicators of competitions.
Tim Keogh retired from the Fints in 1970 and this was eventually to
lead to a decline in the band's fortunes. Frank continued to play with
the band until 1982 .
Frank and his precocious 12 year old daughter Rhona joined the drum
corps of the Rathcoole Pipe Band in County Dublin and went on to win
two All Ireland drumming prizes in Grade 4 and Grade 3. The drum corps
of Rathcoole also appeared on a Chieftains' recording of the time.
Frank did return to the Fints for a brief spell in the late 80's but
his last competition appearance with a pipe band was to be with a band
he had helped bring into the world in the mid 70's, and which his
family have had close ties with since inception, namely New Ross and
District. Frank helped the band to a 6th. place in the 1995 Worlds in
Glasgow playing in his son's corps.
Frank's involvement with New Ross can be traced back to the late 60's
when he made a number of visits to the town to teach the drum corps of
the FCA Pipe Band. When an ex-drummer of the FCA Pipe Band, Pat
O'Gorman decided to found a new pipe band in New Ross in 1974, it was
again to Frank Saunders he turned. The Pipe Major of the new band was a
very inexperienced 21 year old ex-piper from the St. Kevin's Pipe Band
in Bray, Co. Wicklow- Brian Mac Mahon.
Frank became a regular visitor to New Ross in the 1970's and he was the
biggest influence on the direction the band would take. He had an
enormous input into the structures of the newly formed band and was a
knowledgeable mentor for the young pipe major as well as for the drum
corps. By 1980, Frank's son Frank Junior , had taken over as both
instructor and lead drummer in New Ross (having learned his trade in
the Fintan Lalor corps). Frank Junior was later to be joined by his
brother Ian on Bass drum, his sister Rhona on sides, his wife Margaret
on pipes, his son Paul on tenor and his daughter Michelle on tenor.
On one memorable occasion, Frank and Rhona visited New Ross for a
practice and spent three days there- snowbound! The Southeast was cut
off by freak blizzards! The Saunders connection with New Ross has been
an unbroken one since 1974.
In the background during this long career in pipe bands has been
Frank's closest companion, his wife Betty. Born in neighbouring
Ranelagh in Dublin, Frank met Betty Burke at an early age. Through
Frank's influence, Betty also got involved with pipe bands and joined
the City of Dublin Girl's Pipe Band where she spent six years as a
piper. During that time she was under the direction of one Nan Tully-
the mother of the now legendary Terry Tully and grandmother of the up
and coming Alen Tully. Terry Tully's father, Tommy, also taught the
City of Dublin PB. Isn't it strange how pipe bands often run through
families?
Frank and Betty's romance didn't always run smooth , however, for some
time after taking up the pipes, Betty and Frank had a 'falling out'
which lasted for a full year. Strangely, it was to be through the pipe
band scene that they were to get back together. A massed pipe band
marching from Dublin city centre to the Oireachtas football and hurling
finals in Croke Park was an annual event, and it was at one of these
events that Frank spotted Betty, he with one band and she with another.
The peace was made and they have been together ever since.
Some years ago, Frank was cajoled out of retirement by the persuasive
Wilbie Hanna to take part in the veteran's drumming competition in
Downpatrick. Never one to shirk a challenge ,Frank duly dusted off his
score for Balmorel Highlanders, Dornie Ferry and Loch Carron and duly
took first prize in his section. Frank finished second the following
year at the ripe age of 70!
Frank Saunders certainly stands as one of the giants of the pipe band scene in Ireland.
Sadly, Frank died on 8th. August 2008 after a short illness. he is
greatly missed by his family and by everyone in the pipe band world.
On 14th. November 2009, the New Ross and District Pipe Band staged a
tribute concert in his memory. This concert was a sell out and had
contributions from musicians from Ireland , Scotland and France.
Frank Saunders ( on the right of photo ) and Stephen Creighton , lead drummer of the
St. Laurence O'Toole Pipe Band ,
Dublin at the World Pipe Band Championships in 2006. S.L.O.T. won the
top drumming prize in Grade 1 and boy did Frank enjoy the occasion- as
he did all his trips to Scotland !
Below: The 2006 World winning SLOT drum corps with Frank's daughter
Rhona (back left) and grand-daughter Michelle (front row - 2nd. from
left)